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PMP#127: You Down with Downton Abbey?

July 6, 2022 by Mark Leave a Comment

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We discuss the appeal of this Julian-Fellowes-penned British historical drama in light of the new film. Is this really “a new era” or just more of the same, and is that bad?

Mark is joined by returning guest Jon Lamoreaux (host of The Hustle music podcast), plus a couple: former newscaster Corrinne MacLeod (whom Mark SCANDOLOUSLY went on one date with at age 12) and her husband, the photographer Michael MacLeod.

We talk about the excellent casting and how such a big cast gets juggled, the appeal of this particular historical setting, revolutions against the class system in the show, and the soapy plots. How can a film give us enough of such a big cast? We also touch on The Gilded Age, Bridgerton, Howard’s End, Gosford Park, The Great, Poldark, and more.A few relevant articles we looked at include:

  • “Downton Abbey: How the Period Franchise Has Remained Popular” by Jessica Brajer
  • “Downton Abbey: A New Era Is Really the Same Old Downton Abbey” by Jen Chaney
  • “‘Downton Abbey’ reminds us what ‘conservatism’ really means” by Max Boot
  • “‘Downton Abbey’ 602: What Are This Show’s Politics, Anyway?” By Meghan O’Keefe
  • “How Downton Abbey went from great to awful to pretty good again” by Constance Grady
  • “Thomas Barrow, Iconic Chaotic Gay, Gets Bland but Happy Ending in ‘Downton Abbey: A New Era’—Happy Pride Month” by Princess Weekes

Here’s that Downton Star Wars thing Mike refers to.

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This podcast is part of the Partially Examined Life podcast network and is curated by openculture.com.

Filed Under: Drama, Film, TV Tagged With: film podcast, historical drama, pop culture podcast, TV podcast

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