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PMP#110: The Dune Franchise Tries Again

November 24, 2021 by Mark Leave a Comment

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Yes, we have another Dune film, and this time Warner Bros. is serious about a franchise, with at least one sequel planned and a prequel TV series in the works. With thousands of years worth of world building, the books by Frank Herbert and the world now being fleshed out by his son Brian Herbert with Kevin J. Anderson offer more source material than Star Wars for potential filmmakers to play with, but is this world anywhere near as fun?

Mark is joined by a returning Brian Hirt, plus Brian Casey (brother of Dylan) and Three if By Space senior editor Erin Conrad to talk about whether this series is really adaptable to the screen at all, and we consider past attempts by David Lynch and Alejandro Jodorowsky (rather slighting the tedious TV version). Is the new version more successful? More feminist? Less colonialist?

Is the lore just too packed into the books to convey adequately? When Frank Herbert jumps forward 3000 years, is that a path that moviegoers will want to follow, even if familiar characters can still be present as talkative ancestral memories in new characters’ heads or come back as clones? 

For points of comparison, we touch on not only Star Wars, but Outlander, Picard, The Orville, Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings, Walking Dead, The Dark Tower, and more. 

Follow Erin @ErinConrad2 and Brian Casey @bwcasey.

Some articles that fed into our discussion include:

  • “Dune: science fiction’s answer to Lord of the Rings” by Alison Flood
  • “Spice World: WIRED Traces the Dune Legacy“
  • “Denis Villeneuve Gave ‘Dune’ Writer Mandatory Goal: Focus on the Women Characters” by Zack Sharf
  • “Why Is ‘Dune’ a Sci-Fi Film With No Computers? Let’s Explain” by Chase Hutchinson
  • “What Draws Us to the Reactionary Darkness of ‘Dune’?” By Chris Dite
  • “Race Consciousness: Fascism and Frank Herbert’s ‘Dune’” by Jordan S. Carroll

This episode includes bonus discussion you can access by supporting the podcast at patreon.com/prettymuchpop, or now you can sign up directly via Apple Podcasts for a subscription for ad-free and bonus material for three of Mark’s podcasts together on the Mark Lintertainment Podcasts Channel.

This podcast is part of the Partially Examined Life podcast network and is curated by openculture.com.

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Filed Under: Film, Science Fiction Tagged With: Dune, film podcast, Frank Herbert, pop culture podcast, sci-fi podcast

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