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PMP#95: “The Nevers” With a Side of Whedon

June 9, 2021 by Mark 2 Comments

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Mark, Erica, and Brian discuss the HBO Max show out Victorian-era super-powered feminine outcasts, helmed and now abandoned by the creator of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Firefly, etc. It’s jam packed with steampunk gadgets, fisticuffs, social injustice, and far too many characters and plot threads to keep track of. Given that the season was reduced to a half season in light of the pandemic, does it still work? Does knowing the complaints about Joss Whedon affect our consumption of the show? Is this a faux feminism where women must undergo torture to gain strength?

Here are a few articles we considered:

  • “The Nevers Is an Unimpressive Monument to Joss Whedon’s Obsessions” by Kathryn VanArendonk
  • “Review: The Nevers Makes Abrupt Turn in Disorienting Midseason Finale” by Jennifer Oullette
  • “‘The Nevers’ Can’t Escape Joss Whedon’s Shadow, for Better or (Mostly) Worse” by Alison Herman
  • “A Complete Timeline of Every Joss Whedon Controversy” by Gabrielle Sanchez
  • “A Guide to the Growing Controversy Over Joss Whedon’s Avengers and Marvel’s Gender Problem” by Emily VanDerWerff
  • “‘The Nevers’ Star Laura Donnelly Was ‘Gutted’ by Joss Whedon’s Exit: ‘I Had a Wonderful Experience Working With Him’” by Jennifer Maas

This episode includes bonus discussion you can access by supporting the podcast at patreon.com/prettymuchpop. This podcast is part of the Partially Examined Life podcast network and is curated by openculture.com.

Filed Under: Science Fiction, TV Tagged With: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Joss Whedon, pop culture podcast, The Nevers, TV podcast

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  1. Conner Jared Fields says

    June 12, 2021 at 1:49 am

    When does the episode on David Cronenberg come out?

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  2. Mark says

    June 12, 2021 at 2:12 am

    The Internet is telling me he’s starting to shoot a new feature “Crimes of the Future.” I’d say when that’s done…

    Reply

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